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GSGregory
#1 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:57:36 PM
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So far i have played for quite a few hours and all i see is that high level players join together to farm. Currently at rank 3 its impossible to do anything besides practice or losing because the only players who play bugs are the high ranks. A game where you either farm or lose is not going to attract many players.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:26:53 PM
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okay if you dont wanna get farmed and lose, go to practice and GET BETTER, or make a team of your own with your guild (if you have one)
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#3 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:46:39 PM
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i strongly recommend getting some of your friends to play this game, 7+you would be ideal but at least 1 would be good enough. Then you make a practice room where 1 play bug and 1 play human then switch with eachother, this way you can try and see whice playstyle fits you the best and you might come up with some usefull tactics. At least this way you'll get better and will get more info about bug units, bug leader skills and will get more used to the maps.
Bantak
#4 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2010 6:06:15 PM
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I guess he refers to cuddly and khorne ;)
They used the same playstyle vs 5 Privates (+me) as vs 4 BEST, 1 5Star (+me), meaning the privates get overrun in less than 2:30 with less than 10kills (at least I got more than 10 kills ;D ). (But I guess they would have done the same Psi-Rhino-Jugger-Healer-Mortar.spam if there were 6 Privates)
I mean c'mon, if a team has 3 Priv. or more, people should at least rely on a parttime Commandospam so they get some kills and a longer game, so they won't quit the game after one evening of bashing. ;)
Naeblis
#5 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:09:00 PM
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Just another reason to get advertising going, and booting all the L33Ts to Expert.
You realy can't ask someone to be WORSE, just so some player will enjoy his stay more. Looney and Cudds are the best bug team going around, at the moment, and they're no worse than Human STOMP teams, walking all over Bugs. Face it. This is an MMO. No "Whah whah", if you choose to play online. There's always going to be a team/person that just RULES the map. Only way to beat them, is to get better, yourself.

By the way, I imagine asking these bugs to teach you, could really get you somewhere. Looney, for example, has already taught many bugs. It's not the only way, just, alot easier.
Bantak
#6 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 1:43:59 AM
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Naeblis wrote:
You realy can't ask someone to be WORSE, just so some player will enjoy his stay more.


And why not ? Sure he can (or I can, since the Commando.spam argument was mine).
Do you run at your fastest speed or wrestle with your full strengh when competing with a kid ?

Normally people would say "no they don't" (except they are kids themselves), because they know that they are ways ahead of them and only want them to enjoy their time. So why should we think different when it comes to adults (and the pre and post adolescent) - Do we not want our game-partner to enjoy his/her time so he/she will come back and get better ?
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#7 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 5:16:49 AM
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Actually naebl, asking people to go a bit easier on the teaming up is not an unreasonable request. The problem the game is facing at the moment is a lacking player base and people quitting because they can't win against high ranked teamed bugs does not help the matter.

I may seem like a hypocrite because I was with eg a lot before, but now I am alone and guildless and have good games with and against randoms.
Ragnek
#8 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 7:04:08 AM
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BlueWolf wrote:
Actually naebl, asking people to go a bit easier on the teaming up is not an unreasonable request. The problem the game is facing at the moment is a lacking player base and people quitting because they can't win against high ranked teamed bugs does not help the matter.

I may seem like a hypocrite because I was with eg a lot before, but now I am alone and guildless and have good games with and against randoms.


A little birdie told me OC might have a spot for you... I think i still hold a little bit of sway in there :P
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#9 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 7:18:17 AM
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Ragnek wrote:
BlueWolf wrote:
Actually naebl, asking people to go a bit easier on the teaming up is not an unreasonable request. The problem the game is facing at the moment is a lacking player base and people quitting because they can't win against high ranked teamed bugs does not help the matter.

I may seem like a hypocrite because I was with eg a lot before, but now I am alone and guildless and have good games with and against randoms.


A little birdie told me OC might have a spot for you... I think i still hold a little bit of sway in there :P



ragnek??? who is this person that speaks??? :D
Ragnek
#10 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 3:48:50 PM
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BLIMQUIM wrote:
Ragnek wrote:
BlueWolf wrote:
Actually naebl, asking people to go a bit easier on the teaming up is not an unreasonable request. The problem the game is facing at the moment is a lacking player base and people quitting because they can't win against high ranked teamed bugs does not help the matter.

I may seem like a hypocrite because I was with eg a lot before, but now I am alone and guildless and have good games with and against randoms.


A little birdie told me OC might have a spot for you... I think i still hold a little bit of sway in there :P



ragnek??? who is this person that speaks??? :D



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Creslin
#11 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 6:27:17 PM
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player base is still low huh :/ and i was thinking about making a reapearance
Dracus_Prime
#12 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 7:05:31 PM
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Any newbies, just ask to join our good teams, we will let you in, but you have to follow instructions, and attempt to learn something from our experiance, that is all. I will gladly invite you, just beware, you will have to bear my full tactical lectures.
Naeblis
#13 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 9:42:06 PM
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Bantak wrote:


And why not ? Sure he can (or I can, since the Commando.spam argument was mine).
Do you run at your fastest speed or wrestle with your full strengh when competing with a kid ?

Normally people would say "no they don't" (except they are kids themselves), because they know that they are ways ahead of them and only want them to enjoy their time. So why should we think different when it comes to adults (and the pre and post adolescent) - Do we not want our game-partner to enjoy his/her time so he/she will come back and get better ?


So, are you going to go out, and lose to randoms in Arena now? Just to make their stay is better?
I have died purposefully many times, to encourage noobish teams, but im not going to lose to them. Sometimes in Arena, we let them get to the 100 or 200 mark, before we start. Not sure how encouraging it is, but....
I guess I can see people asking Looney and Cudds to make matches a bit longer than 1-2 minutes. But, it's still and MMO, so anyone who's played them before should know better, of what to expect.
elffr0mhell
#14 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:37:09 AM
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Naeblis wrote:
Bantak wrote:


And why not ? Sure he can (or I can, since the Commando.spam argument was mine).
Do you run at your fastest speed or wrestle with your full strengh when competing with a kid ?

Normally people would say "no they don't" (except they are kids themselves), because they know that they are ways ahead of them and only want them to enjoy their time. So why should we think different when it comes to adults (and the pre and post adolescent) - Do we not want our game-partner to enjoy his/her time so he/she will come back and get better ?


So, are you going to go out, and lose to randoms in Arena now? Just to make their stay is better?


Bantak never, EVER plays arena :P really a stick in my bum when we need 1 more member to make a OC arena team for GvGs^^
Bantak
#15 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:12:32 AM
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That remembers me I forgott to answer to the last post in the arena-curse-thread... am going to do. :D

And about your idea... yes, when I see 4 Privates or 5 CPL 'n below (and mostly clanless), I mostly rely on Commando, Spy, Stinger and Arrow. This month I even lost 3 matches because of not sending in more than one Juggs-wave.
And when one bug leaves and the other one does not seem able to overrun em, and they start to do stupid rambo-stuff I go back and watch the game instead of fighting (except I get attacked), yesterday I watched 2 reactors fall while I was standing besides them, just to A: be fair, and B: teach my team something about letting the wall undefended.
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